Category Archives: pre-FIRE

FIRE.50 MMMMM Frosting

I think I’ve found something sweet in life!

Nearly every morning as I wake up I take a few moments to relax and prepare for the day.  I don’t even have to think about my daily plans (those activities are already in my schetchle but rather think about how amazing life is.

Of course, we all know that each morning we see the sunlight is much better than the other option, but how thankful are we?

I have found that laying in bed, being comfortable, knowing that I’m so lucky to have lived my life in a way so far to allow me to fully own my day as my own, really sets me up for the great day ahead.  There are many wise people that take some time each morning to meditate calming or clearing their mind, so it’s possible I’m doing this in my own way.

The other day I was enjoying the start of my morning, feeling VERY comfortable and content, laying under the fluffy down comforter when I realized that I’m like the frosting on my bed cake.  Yep, sometimes a calm mind comes up with strange things.

So, my bed is the nice soft foundation of the cake and the comforter is the fluffy frosting on the cake.  I was laying there in full comfort right in the middle of the sweet frosting.

Everyone should have the opportunity to take advantage of some of this “frosting” time.  All too often we are jarred awake by an alarm, we pull ourselves out of bed—or delay the inevitable before getting up—and drag ourselves into the day.  If only more of us could find the few minutes to lay in the frosting and enjoy the sweetness of what we have—even if only for 5 minutes.

I have written before how the best time of my day is the 10-15 before I fall asleep. I’m realizing more and more that sleep is where your body recovers, repairs itself, reset itself and realigns to for the upcoming day(s).  It is important to maximize your sleep almost as much as you maximize your day.  Your health may depend on it.

I believe I have always thought about many things differently than others.  My mind is usually a straight-ahead plan, but I also envision random ideas along the way.  I’m not artistic, but I’m possibly mentally creative?  I guess I’m sharing an alternate perspective—maybe one you could try to get a different perspective and outcome for yourself.

There is so much zen about mindset.  I really try to work on zen but it’s not my nature.  Yet I continue to try and find calm.  Finding this frosting time—and naming it—has made it more of a functional time than just being lazy.  I know my days, especially my mornings, have been better because of enjoying the frosting.

FIRE.048 FI’ers

A couple weeks ago I met with the Phoenix ChooseFI Local group and it was one of the most amazing meetings ever.

Gathered around a large table were over a dozen people who are taking control of their financial lives.  Some are starting this as a new level goal while others are expanding their financial skills.

There were quick introductions where everyone told a little about their story. Savers. Real estate investors. Small business or side hustlers. I could feel my energy and excitement grow every couple minutes with each new “I’m into this” story.

The attendees (FI’er’s) were ALL interested to learn more and be better with Finances.  Specifically to control their finances and gain financial power for their lives.  It wasn’t like some of those tv/movie “financial seminars” I’d viewed or imaged.  The gung-ho, rah-rah, let’s-go-make-money ideals.  This was a “how do you…”  “How could I…”  …get into the powerful position of money/financial confidence.

So fast forward two weeks and I’m in San Diego (life is great) and I’m able to meet up with another ChooseFI Local group.  Nearly thirty (stars) at a neighborhood church meeting room. Some retired. Some brand new. Some feeling the need to fine tune. Some feeling the need or newfound desire to get their money smacked down and under control.

Again as everyone introduced themselves I felt the energy of grown and experience from these amazing people.  Different people at different stages of finances but all with the same thinking of being in control.

I STRONGLY recommend finding a local ChooseFI group and attending/sharing.  You can quietly listen and/or talk and talk because the group(s) are really easy going and very smart and totally welcoming.  In all honesty, life-changing.

FIRE.048 Your Timeline vs Automobiles

[continuing my car theme from my last post]

50 Years: My wife and I were thinking about how things change. Small changes over time add up to huge differences from point A to point B. We thought about her ’69 mustang and how it’s almost 50 years old. Older than me! We thought about the MASSIVE changes in technology over the recent 50 years, such as better braking, stability, computer controlled everything, adaptive cruise control, blind spot sensors, rear cameras, not to mention self-driving cars/semis.

We then thought about how the 69 mustang was hugely different than say a 1918 model T, or even a 1915 high-end Cadillac. This of the open wheels, hand crank, buggy carriage setup, kazoo horn…

Next 50 years: Here’s my next thought—I may be around 50 years from now and be able to witness another of these cycles. It’s possible the cycles will speed up—similar to binary growth/compounding—allowing two-fold of these “cycles” in the next 50 years.

These changes are limitless in automotive, air travel, technology, medicine, science, space travel, even super-duper-earth-travel?

[This is the positive way to look at future “progress/growth” rather than the stressful FIRE thoughts about inflation and how much more everything will cost in the future. Those mid 60’s mustangs were around $2500 new. In today’s dollars, that would equal about $20,000. Projecting forward just seems scary. If the average new car today is $30k, then it would be possible a new car in 2057 could be $250k.]

Hold on for the amazing future:

Can you even imagine the future you will be part of?

How can we prepare our financial lives for such changes?

This is such a great time to be alive and living in this world…and into the future. “Find The Positive!”

FIRE.046 401k car to nowhere

This is a TRUE STORY.  The names have been changed to protect the guilty person.  This still hurts me to this day (of current “market highs”).  Just my thoughts/another perspective on life/spending.

A few years ago I was hanging out at a small gathering with acquaintances and the stories were flying around and new cars came up.  One of the ladies mentioned how she loves her new ($30k) car.  After a few minutes, she joked that she had a 401k that “crashed” so she got mad and pulled all the remaining money out of her 401k to buy her new car, thus “protecting her money.”

Nightmare math (estimate):

  • 2007 balance in 401k: 100k
  • 2009 market crash, the balance falls to: 60k
  • 2009 she closes account <59.5, paying maybe 28%+5%+10% (fed tax, state tax, penalty). This leaves a TOTAL inflow of: 35k?
  • 2009 she uses the “saved-from-disaster” money and buys a 30k car (+3k tax, +first year=1k insurance,1k gas, other)
  • 2012 the three-year-old car may now be worth 15k? …and still dropping in value, while incurring expenses
  • So in just a few short years, her roughly $100k became a depreciating $15k ‘use’ asset.
  • If the money had been left in the account (and it only recovered back to even) and then w/d in retirement starting after age 60 (in a slightly lower tax bracket?) over 3 years, the net inflow could have been closer to 25k after taxes for 3 years.

Of course, using post-2012 math is perfect 20/20 hindsight.  I remember in 2008 thinking how everything was imploding and wondering how long the economy (markets) would take to come back…if they did at all—considering Japan’s lost decade, etc.

During the crisis, so many of the podcasts and articles begged people to stay-the-course.  They all said the markets have ALWAYS come back through US history.  I Figured I was young and over the coming decades it would work out.  WHEW.  I also kept saving each paycheck, knowing full well that I was getting more shares for the same amount of investment.  Luckily, I was an adult in 2001 and lived through something similar—but not as crazy—so I figured that it may all work out like they were saying.

 

Side note: I’m not one to understand the pleasure of a new car purchase.  ALL of my automobiles have been purchased used.  Our main car tends to be 3 years old when we purchase it, then we drive it for 10 years before considering our next main vehicle.  Maybe I just don’t know any better!?  Come to think about it, even my homes were all used, most of my clothes are used (or outlet), many of electronics are often last year’s tech on deal-of-the-day.  Maybe this is a trend of mine.  It’s worked out so far…

FIRE.045 Let’s think about THE Number

Well…Money people constantly talk about “the number.”  It’s your retirement number, the target you’re shooting for, the goal, the goal-to-end-all-goals.  I have some thoughts about this super magical number—or more specifically—your goal(s).

When I was 25 I thought about an early retirement around age 55.  I thought how reaching a million dollars would surely enable an early retirement.  Oh, how I could live off the income generated from that magical million dollars.  Well, I’ve read and learned that it turns out “one million” dollars wouldn’t actually be what it was 30 years earlier.  Oops!  Time to rethink think magic number.  You would think business school would have made that more clear—and more importantly taught us three simple words “total market index.”

So if the target is no longer (for many people) the magical million dollars, what is the target?  What is your savings goal?  It seems to me that looking at the issue in reverse may yield the best answer.  Your financial well being is based on what you spend, not what you earn in most cases.  Therefore, understanding how much you spend is critical to your financial well being before and during retirement.

I’ve tracked my monthly spending for 20+ years.  Each month I look at bank statements to log each transaction to get a really good idea of spending, usually to about 98% accuracy or so.  [we’ve learned it really doesn’t change too much over the years if you keep the same house, cars, spouse, etc]

Once you know what your spending pattern is while you’re working, you can then project how that spending may change in retirement (more opportunities to spend?).

Saving 25x (30x?) your yearly spending amount allows for the standard Safe Withdrawal Rate over a lengthy retirement based on many studies of historical models.  Yet based on unbelievably low current and recent fixed income rates the 4% SWR rule places retirees, and especially early retirees in a conundrum.  The first question, can you withdrawal 4% of your portfolio balance on year one—and adjust for inflation in subsequent years?  There is no way to answer this until you are 15, 20, 30 years into retirement.  Well, what about the logic that you spend more early in your retirement, in your “Go-Go” years?  As you, and your body, decide to do less adventurous/active/expensive activities as the years progress you may very well spend less money.  Will medical costs in those later life years increase, most probably.  Will those medical costs be more than your 4% inflation-adjusted spend rate?  Nobody knows your specific case.

The option I am working with is, what if I can use a withdrawal rate of 3%, or 2.5%, even 3.5%.  Some calculations I’ve performed show one half of one percent compounded over 20,30,40 years is DRAMATIC.  I also consider the possibility that my investment portfolio may perform better, or much better, than a worse case withdrawal rate.  Many financial advisors consider this the Flexible Withdrawal Strategy.  Where you withdrawal a little more following a good return year—pull a little more of the high profits— and less following a subpar year—live more basic.  The flexible withdrawal rate strategy seems to come back to controlling your fixed spending requirements for poor return years so you can maximize your Go-Go following the good years.  They say the overall stock market goes up approx 70% of the years.  Seven good years and three basic years every decade seems like a great idea to me.  Maybe you will want to rest and recover those three years from all your Go-Go activities.

My current working plan—being only 3+ years into FIRE— is to stick pretty close to my pre-FIRE spending rate, which was the target for my FIRE spending.  This plan luckily falls well below the 4% SWR.  My wife and I also seem to have stumbled into some flexible part-time working opportunities that we enjoy enough to do it.  We may spend a day or two per week, every few weeks working and gain some nice “playchecks” to buy “extra stuff” or put towards the basic bills.

So, “the number” is really just a checkpoint to allow you to route along the lifestyle you’ve planned to live.  The goal of “retirement” seems to be to have a plan for living life.  Your net worth should be tied directly to living.

FIRE.044 Fully FIREd Household ?!

So many people write about being in FIRE/FIREd.  Many others document their journey leading up to FI/FIRE.  I read so many of these blogs because there is so much amazing information, and even more to learn from each perspective.  Even to those already in FIRE, we have so much to learn.

BUT, and this is very important if you’re thinking about FIRE—technically a person can be in FIRE while still having a partner/spouse who works, but that is not a fully FIREd household.  Yes, it’s true that a smart household will continue to maintain an income, but I don’t believe that is the true idea of FIRE.

I’m not diminishing the FI portion of those blogger’s lives.  I just feel that having only one “RE” spouse is quite similar to a stay-at-home spouse…even if that couple is FI and the working income is not required.  It may also depend on how you personally feel about trading time for money (“work”).

I’m quite sure one “FIREd” person + with one working person is very different from a fully FIRED household.

The reason I feel this way is from firsthand experience.  When the direct deposits from your employer stop as you RE, your life finances have an entirely different foundation.  Monthly cash flow is the real deal.  Companies want your money when you pay your bills.  It is crucial that you have an income/inflow plan.  It doesn’t matter if it’s the bucket strategy, dividend/interest, pensions/annuities, gifts, or from a side hustle—planning before your cash flows outbound is critical.  It feels very strange at the start of FIRE to pay bills when there are no paychecks.

Most of us living below our means, and pushing towards FIRE, know the pleasure of saving and watching our accounts/net worth grow from our hard work and planning.  It is probably a very similar feeling to someone living paycheck to paycheck who buys something new and shows it off (like a fancy car, home remodel, clothes/shoes, a new gadget to replace the not-even-old-yet gadget).  Seriously, to each/their own—save or spend.  No judgment here—well a little judgment of course.

I understand a couple could be fully FIREd, and one or both people could have multiple streams of income—both passive and active.  Maintaining an income or multiple streams of income may be the true target for FIRE.  It may be you FIREd from a career that wasn’t in your heart and now you are pursuing a passion that may give you some income.  I can definitely understand following a passion or even just a strong interest.  This is a major part of the “freedom” of FI.  It seems obvious to me that many people who FIRE are high achievers who aren’t going to just shut down their skillset because they have FU money.  They are going to use their FU money to allow them to live their lives in the manner they choose.

So when I think about one person blogging on their FIRE while someone else in the home is working, especially when that work income is counted in the budget/plan, I think that is still a step from a fully FIREd household.

 

To be very clear, my wife “retired early” but I loved my job so I kept working for 3 years (over working) because I had one of the best jobs in the world.  I had planned to FIRE with her, but I didn’t feel the need to quit my career just yet.  So “we” weren’t FIREd, but we were FI, with FU money to spare for years—which made working even easier.

Also, as I mentioned before, we lived off our retirement budget for most of those three years that I over worked like the Mock Retirement idea.  Nearly every penny of that income went off to investments without being touched.  Yes, our “retirement” budget was a little higher (trip to Paris for free using that ‘over working’ income) but our tracking showed we were smart in our yearly spend estimates.

When you read about people in FIRE, just consider the varying levels of FIRE.

  1. Fully FIREd household: Both partners not working traditional careers.
  2. Partially FIREd: One partner not working traditional career, the other working, hopefully in something they really enjoy
  3. FI household: both partners doing whatever they choose to do each day because the inflow of income is not required to live their lifetime.  Working at what they enjoy is the nature of the FI over-achievers.
  4. FU household: working in careers to push up the net worth number. However, you are in control because of your savings/planning.  It’s like FI jr.  This is HUGE.

I think everyone who really works towards bettering their financial situation, especially consistently over the longer term, is so amazing.  Planning far ahead, delaying gratification (a little), balancing life now and in the future is so very hard.  But there’s a comic that has some logic:

“Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.”  Keep stocking up so you can make your own rules!!!

FIRE.042 FIRE ignition,Day 1=free

I wanted to share my FIRE ignition, the final “pages” of corporate life and beginning of FIRE. They are the chapters of my life story, the Acts of my life’s play. I had read Mr. 1500’s final months story and absolutely loved it. I thought my story was so VERY similar in case anyone wanted to see another perspective. Thinking about it, I think Brandon’s/Mad Fientist transition was very similar too, but the international version. We all could have resigned earlier, but kept working (over working-bonus saving) because we enjoyed the work. More specifically, enjoyed the power of being in control of our employment status, see FU money. (Umm, working from home helps big time!)

My FIRE really happened on July 4th 2014. Independence Day for sure! BUT, I’m too smart to resign before a holiday so my last day of employment was 7/7/14 to make sure I was paid for the holiday. That holiday was hundreds of extra dollars just by waiting one more day and not even having to work that day. In so many ways, I live a charmed life. I know it and I treasure it. You can do the same.

So, I loved my job. I worked from home on a flexible schedule. I was a “computer guy.” My title was Infrastructure Architect/Program Manager. I worked with our company sites all over the world. Close to 125 sites in most regions. I’d lead system deployment projects as well as escalations that the help desk, 2nd tier, 3rd tier or local techs couldn’t figure out. It was great, being able to solve someone’s problem so they could get their work done and go home and enjoy their evening. In my mind, I was just a helper/fixer but my scope and criticality were pretty massive.

I’d get started 6:30-7a so I could grab any issues that happened in Europe before their end of day. I’d close issues before someone left for the day which helped them feel better about their evening. I’d then shift into US/Americas issues and see how I could help. Of course meetings on plans/schedules/etc happened through the US workday which was ok. Conference calls aren’t too bad. I was so lucky because I was able to squeeze in my workouts (gym, bike, run, hockey, whatever) for an hour or so anytime during the day when I wasn’t too busy. I would then start to wrap up my day around 5-6p when Asia was coming online. It was nice to try and get their issues closed during their morning so they weren’t struggling all day. I’m not a one-man follow-the-sun support person so all my contacts knew to get with me early/late in their respective day.

I love(d) fixing things. I worked with people on different continents every day. I love working with people from other companies on connectivity setups/troubleshooting. I had a great team working for me all over the US and support in other countries. It was great, but, over time the IT dept leaned out. Every 3-4 years we’d had RIFs and a couple team members would be let go, after about 6 rounds of this over 15 years the team was beyond thin. I lost the last two guys that worked for me in summer 2013. They traveled a couple times per month to sites for projects. I was lucky, with my team in place I traveled once per quarter or so to sites around the world and that was perfect. Once my team was down to me, then I started traveling every other week. That messed with my schetchle and my ability to control what I loved. I tried being a team of one for a year until …we’ll get to that.

Let’s jump back. I have saved some of my pay since I started working summer jobs in high school. I saved during my college jobs and as a professional. In 2005 my wife and I started on a seven-year plan to FIRE in 2012. We saved a little more during this time than normal but still lived a great life along the way. (We were lucky to both be professionals). We met our goals (“the number”) in 2011 so my wife retired early on our wedding anniversary that summer. Since I loved my job, and I worked from home, I just kept working (over working). The difference was when over-working, I saved ALL of my paycheck and we lived off our “FIRE” budget as an experiment. We did do a couple projects on the house and a trip to Europe on our “extra, since-I’m-still-working” money, but mostly lived off our planned budget amount. Pete The Planner calls this Mock RETIREMENT.

So from 2011 until 2014 my wife was the only one “retired.” In 2013 her work asked her to do some part-time, 2-3 day per week consulting, I continued over worked from home. In summer 2012 we bought a vacation trailer near the beach. This was our “since-I’m-still-working” money and like a bonus payable over a few years at the beach. It was “free” beach living. The coolest part was that I could work from “home” at my beach home. Some days/weeks in the summer, while at the beach, I would work in the morning and take half a day of vacation in the afternoon. These half vacation days stretched my vacation time to months of half-days. This made working so easy, enjoyable and still very productive to my customers.

In spring 2014 (about a year after my team was laid off) I read a work policy that allowed 30 days of leave without pay for personal reasons. I decided July would be my month off. I notified my boss in May that I was requesting July off. My boss was supportive but HR declined my request because my personal reasons did not match their policy. Apparently, you need some disaster to request personal time. I had no such disaster, I was loving life. I regrouped and told my bosses (who were great) I was going to take July off—no matter what—because I wanted to enjoy a break for myself. My boss tried to offer a vacation shuffle/etc but it didn’t seem truthful somehow trying to squeeze this out.

GET THIS. I gave my job to a senior! So I told the megacorp I was taking the time off in July, 40 days notice, on July 7th, and I suggested we bring back one of my teammates who was laid off the prior year. He was 63 and not getting traction getting a new position over the past year. I suggested two weeks overlap/training to get him back up to speed on the new technologies and they went for it and brought him back on contract. I was so happy. I helped a great guy get back into the workforce, utilizing his skillset, in a familiar situation. How cool is that? (over 3 years later he’s still employed with a nice paycheck for his family).

Recap:

  • End of May asked for July off—denied.
  • June 1st asked to cross train my senior replacement—accepted.
  • June 15th cross training replacement began.
  • July 4th got paid to celebrate Independence Day (at beach trailer).
  • July 7th my work accounts were shut down.
  • July 8th woke up and went for a run in the morning with no logging in to check on Europe.
  • July 9th went to the gym in the morning…repeat over and over for three+ years.

Here’s another tip “retirement in a trailer” is not a bad thing if you have a good trailer in a great location(s). There’s a whole culture of seniors who live in “Park Models.” Many have a summer mountain park model trailer, as well as a warm winter location park model. Two trailers can be cheaper than one house, plus you get two locations. Just be careful on the monthly space rent.

Takeaways:

  1. We hit our “number” and it was nice but didn’t change a thing.
  2. working in a job you love makes the day great, but being FI gives you ALL the power for your employment situation, FU money.
  3. leaving a working career (“retiring”) does not mean you won’t work at all. My wife and I find we get asked to consult or do little projects (I teach at a comm. college) so it may be possible to make some money to put towards your spending BEFORE you even need to think about your 3-4% withdrawals.

FIRE.041 Time Spent Vacation Planning

I’ve heard over and over than many people spend more time planning their vacation than their financial life. I actually thought this could be true since I feel in the best cases people just think “my work just moved some money into my 401k, I’m good” or “I saved $50 this paycheck.”

Those of us—I know you’re one of the rarest of us—who plan and think about how to structure your savings and future goals are few and far between.

So why am I writing this post? Last week I had an unplanned opportunity to head to LA for a week. I had five days or so to plan what I wanted to do. I spent an hour mapping out a plan for a few days at the beach, then a couple days in Hollywood, then back to the beach for a few more days.

I then began researching hotels, motels, then AirBnBs. After 3 hours or so, I had my AirBnB’s booked and secured. I quite was amazed that the whole afternoon had flown by as I picked great locations to sleep. I then saw some news about “the stock market’s gains for the day” and realized, I probably just spent more time booking my 7 hotel nights than most people spend figuring out their financial plan for a year.

I then preceded—over the next few days—to map out activities to undertake while I was in LA. I made a list of all my favorite things. I then made a list of things I thought would be different (see space shuttle), and some of which I always wanted to do (hike to the Hollywood sign, eat at the Rainbow Bar & Grill). I organized all of this planning into my schetchle and then I did even more planning.

All of a sudden, my 7 day LA adventure, had taken the better part of 4 days of planning. I’d hate to guess at how many people spend part of four days PER YEAR planning their finances. Even though their financial plan can affect over 50 years of life!

I have to say, my LA adventure was AMAZING. I’ve been to LA dozens of times but this trip was a magical combination of old favorite activities and new adventures. My days of planning, thinking and estimating helped make this one of my best vacations ever. “I love it when a plan comes together.”

By correlation, there is no doubt planning for your financial life will help make your life better. Fact: I know that my past financial planning efforts, driving us into FIRE, is what allowed me to take the time to both plan and enjoy this LA adventure.

It’s time to step up and plan. Take time to think about what you want in the future. Sketch out some goals, dreams, and plans. The experts say to write these down, share them with others, etc. Of course, we don’t reach every single milestone or dream, but you will reach many and get close to others. Being close to a dream is far better than being in a nightmare.