Monthly Archives: June 2017

FIRE.036 Student Loans in Retirement?!

Can you imagine going into early retirement with a student loan payment?

I know we all have different life situations and accomplishments, which is what makes people/life so interesting. We’ve all read about controlling—understanding—your spending before FIRE, so that you lessen the money stress in “retirement.”

We often read about paying off all consumer debt—which often charges a higher interest rate than your retirement assets may earn. We hear that many happy retirees have no mortgage payment—I didn’t say “house” payment because the government, insurance company, utility companies, etc. all want a payment from you.

Your housing expenses are definitely a flexible opportunity related to your cash flow. Some say, “why tie up much of your net worth in a home? If you need cash, you can’t eat your house.” This is why some people rent in retirement.

Being “house rich” is even worse than needing to make a major purchase and having ALL your money in a 401k/IRA. A $10,000 bill paid from a tax-deferred account could conceivably cost you $13,000 even without a youngun penalty (Fed & State taxes). Note: try and keep money in different tax treated accounts for flexibility.

Now on to the seemingly absurd topic in my brain. How could it be someone decides to retire (most likely early/very early) and still have student loans?

This must be a totally different math equation that I’m don’t understand—Of course, Calculus & Trigonometry never made much sense to me except, pass the class and move on.

Is it possible someone has saved enough money working in their career that they can afford to pay for their retirement expenses/lifestyle, yet decided not to pay off their student loans? I’m assuming an early retirement—which would mean a LONG retirement—and the related funding nest-egg to accommodate these many years of normal expenses.

This equation really perplexes me. I’ve come up with a few thoughts:

1) A pay-as-you-earn payment would be low if you earn nothing.

2) a medical retirement—which sucks.

3) maybe the “it will work out, *shrug*” plan.

Get a formal (and flexible) retirement plan from an experienced professional…YEARS before you give your notice. Follow up on your plan over time and sketch out a path for yourself. Do a budget test drive/mock retirement pass for a year or even two. Go into your new life phase with the most certainty possible!

FIRE.035 Same Spouse, Same House, Same Family Size & Cars

Sameness Stability can lead you to a stronger foundation in many aspects of life, not just financially. Having a strong, stable, consistent foundation is required for long-term anchoring for most items.

Houses have concrete foundations, rather than sand or dirt. Multistory buildings have pillars buried deep into the ground for stabilization. Professionals often have years or training to base their current work activities on.

Swapping to new homes, cars or spouses may cause to you rebuild or adjust your life foundations. Obviously, there may be reasons for changes at times in your life, but I want to encourage and embrace the importance “sameness.”

I truly believe cost controls based around your income—spend less than you earn—steer you towards financial success. I do agree there are many ways to increase your income—hopefully to help increase your saving/investing rate—but controlling costs are the first structural building opportunities.

Spouse: I’m super lucky in finding a wife that shares my values. She has been supportive of my somewhat structured spending for over two decades. We still buy things we want, but we seem to use a delayed gratification window to research and make sure we want these items and possibly see if we can get a better price. This delaying/researching methodology seems to work out great.

Kids: Our personal lifestyle does not include children. It could be that we’re missing out on special life moments, but we also seem to be missing out on some random expenses that the two of us do not generate. I said “some” because we have MANY nieces and nephews that seem to constantly have some gifting event. It’s nice to enjoy the children—and then go back to our quiet stable life. That’s just the way things turned out.  And according to the USDA  children are quite expensive to raise, so planning wisely becomes even more critical.

House: We’ve purposely stayed in our same home for well over two decades. Yes, it’s a 1026 sq ft “starter” home with three little bedrooms, but we love the location—three houses away from a huge park/preserve where we run, bike, hike and just look at the mountains or climb a little and look at the city. Having a small home tends to force you to have less stuff. For instance, we have a small amount of furniture. Over the years I’ve watched ALL of my close colleagues upgrade their homes as their careers grew (hedonic adaptation) or family size grew. So we still live in 30+ year-old architecture. Note: yes we do have a vacation trailer that we visit multiple times per year, but these additional costs are controlled by our years of living in a “below our means” home.

Cars: As mentioned above, we’ve watched many of our colleagues acquire new cars. Many new vehicles turned up in the parking lot after a round of bonuses or salary adjustments. It was totally obvious. That’s fine if people love their new cars. We’ve heard “buy used and drive 5+ years or buy new and drive 10 years” to optimize the depreciation hit. We chose to maximize both ideas and buy our main vehicle 3 years old and drive it 10 years. I’ve always had a quite-used card and we’re only on the 2nd round of the “used + 10” strategy—as it takes a decade per round. As for the other vehicle (mine), it’s always been an older Toyota truck. Currently, I’ve had my 2000 Toyota Tacoma since 2004. I hope that no matter how many “Do you want to sell your truck” notes left under the windshield wipers, that I keep the truck a LONG time. I’d estimate we’ve avoided hundreds of thousands of lost dollars of costs with our buy used +10 plan. Note: some of those savings have gone into a classic mustang. Interestingly it has been a value increasing asset (not investment). Life can be a balance of happiness, lifestyle and net worth.

Our plan doesn’t have to work for everyone—or anyone else—but it has worked for us. We love our life. We try to balance the typical large family costs (home, cars, children, marriage), and just make it a point to enjoy every day. If you can’t enjoy every—or most—days, then it’s time to regroup! Right?

FIRE.034 FIRE Morning Miracle

With all respect to Hal, I have a slightly different perspective of The Morning Miracle.

I agree with Hal’s book. I love the thoughts. I just found my application strangely different—which I know Hal wants from all his readers—for my Miracle Morning.

I differ on the awakening time. Yes, each day we all must wake up (it’s MUCH better than the alternative) and take on the day. No dreaded BEEP, BEEP, BEEP or for me it’s the opening of songs on my phone alarm (like an upbeat song or sometimes Metallica -For Whom The Bell Tolls, if you’re heard the beginning, this is funny/ironic) these alarms are not too welcoming when I’m comfy in bed.

Hal’s goal is to drive the start of the day in an awesome way—again perfect. Hal explains most of us have a hectic morning: damn alarm clock, shower, dress, food, kids, traffic, WHAM work $h!t stuff.

Oh, but the magic of FIRE (or even FI) giving you the power (and perspective) to know you’re in control. I’m super lucky. I do not have to wake up at a specific time to “be at work.” Therefore, I don’t have to set my alarm earlier to set up my positive passion for the day. In FIRE, I get to start my own day. THAT IS THE MIRACLE. Well, it’s a miracle if you choose it to be.

So, my step one—of waking time—is already my own miracle. When I wake up, I feel positive, how can I not? I actually don’t sleep in much at all, because I’m so happy to get up and have my day.

It’s interesting that I’ve followed many of Hal’s ideas for years, somehow instinctively. I have silence and reflection time when I’m sitting in my spa every morning. The spa used to be my “commute” time—between my bed and my home office when working. In addition to the silence/thinking/reflection in the spa, I also will read to learn, grow, motivate myself while I’m in the spa.

I ALWAYS drink a large glass of water first thing so I’m hydrated and my blood is full and fueling my brain with oxygen… or whatever it all does.

I know what exercise I’m going to do for the day. I know what my main/priority tasks are for the day. In FIRE, I can even push those tasks to a future date because I don’t have to cram everything into the weekend. [side note: FIRE is so worth the planning and effort it takes] I often perform some of my tasks first, then head off to exercise somewhere between 8-11a. My body doesn’t want to run, bike, swim or gym at 5 or 6a, but that’s OK. I can still get my body engaged and activated in the “morning,” just later morning.

Going to sleep is AMAZING in FIRE. Every single night when I lay down, I think about the day and how it was great, how my life is great, and how tomorrow is all mine. That is GREAT. It makes falling asleep very easy.  See my 2 am secret on middle of the night activities.  All of this thoughts makes waking up positive and motivated natural.

I love my miracle life. I mentioned that in posts. I have a t-shirt stating “I love my life” and wear it often (around the house).

YOLO—Enjoy your life, your days, your mornings!