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FIRE.055 Dividend Paying Asset: House

What dividends are you earning on your investments?  Which of those are guaranteed dividends?

I was listening to Big ERN on ChooseFI who mentioned his home paid him a monthly dividend.  That’s just GENIUS.  It’s really a reverse, tax-free dividend—no need to worry about dividend/LT cap gains rates on this one.

There are people who feel their house in an investment and it’s often their largest asset.  I personally don’t want an investment that cost significant money to maintain and only increases slightly over the inflation rate on average.  Nor do I want an investment that can only be sold in whole if I need some money.  “It’s not like you can eat your house…”  [Notes: leveraging your down payment for profit multiplication is definitely interesting & housing markets determine their own rate of return]

There are people who have the opposite position that your house is a liability.  That is a solid position as well because you are required to pay expenses on your home.  I agree with most of the different position in one way or another.

How did we get to where we live today?  At some points in our lives, we’ve usually had to work a job(s) to pay taxes and take home the leftover.  That leftover probably went toward our housing expense, if not as the highest priority bill, probably very close to the top.  It’s very important to optimize this highest bill to meet your lifestyle choice…budget home or McMansion.

House Dividend Amount Theory:

Let’s say for round numbers your housing principle and interest payment equals $1000 per month.  It’s quite possible you would have to earn $1300-$1500  (1000 net + fed tax + state tax + FICA tax) just to pay for your housing shell.  For now,  I’m ignoring all the other costs such as insurance, utilities, maintenance, etc.

Let’s say you own your home [not, the-bank-owns-my-home-and-I’m buying-it-from-them-each-month; see your deed for details].  At this point, you do not need to earn $1300+ to make your house payment.  That means your house is contributing to/avoiding the removal of $1000 from your earnings/assets (either financial or human capital).

This is the financial “flip-side” of the “it feels great to have a paid for house.”  This is a way of looking at the house actually paying for you to live it in.

Each month the owned house gives your budget a $1000 cost avoidance.  It removes the $1000 cash outflow, thereby not requiring a $1000 of cash inflow ($1300-1500 gross income).  It’s the equivalent of $1000 tax-free dividend, or $1300-1500 taxable dividend income [note: divd tax rates are not 30%, but you get the idea].

Remember, there’s always another angle to view a situation

I love Big ERN’s interesting logic, which I interpret as, not having a payment (outflow), yet still having the item (service) is like a personal dividend.

There are plenty of ways to break this perspective apart and revisit the own/rent discussion.  I just liked ERNs angle for the positive view.

So much of personal finance is related to cash flow.  A dividend-paying home reverses the negative cash flow.  Brilliant sir, as usual for you.

FIRE.054 Part Deux – Repriorment

What do you do part deux?  I could spend weeks writing about how many different ways our collective could share our lifestyle with the commoners/consumers.   Wait, I already do that here.  FIRE is really just relief retirement from a fixed career, a Repriorment if you will. (thanks Linda for sharing this term which sums up the journey so succinctly).  So I will expand…

Repriorment is so very simple.  For me, it is the act of prioritizing anything or everything.  Since you are reading this, you already do this.  You make conscious decisions on what you do with your time.  You make conscious decisions on how you manage your cash flow.  You are thoughtful and rely on the power of your mind.  I can confirm to you that you are extraordinary.

Improvement

I’ve seen repriorment used in the retirement context, but actually, it takes place every minute you are active.  The entire decision of what to do right now—or coming up—is a decision made on what you prioritize.  The little incremental decisions you make over a lifetime shape not only your current actions, but also compound into your future self.  It is truly the amazing results mentioned on ChooseFI of the aggregation of marginal gains.

 

Every once-in-a-while, pause for a second and think about what you’re doing right now, is it what you prioritize or just and offshoot of something you were doing?  Are to completing a conscious task?  Are you completing a multi-task (consciously)?  Or, are you just randomizing?  These are all OK, and because you’re extraordinary, they are all probably adding to your awesomeness…at some level.  But I feel we could all drive ourselves a sliver more.  It’s in our nature as extraordinary people.

Optional

FIOR is a great acronym that has come out of nowhere but I hear it more often.  Lisa is a genius.  She is exactly correct.  OPTIONAL is the key word.  More specifically optional is exactly the heart of the entire FIRE/FIOR world.

The option to reprioritize everything, every day.  There is near total freedom on how you live your day/week/month.  Stop and think about that for a full minute………ANYTHING is possible today, and acceptable.  You have ALL the options, especially at FI

Result

We ALL want days like this, where it’s our day to decide what to do.

The very best description I read about FIRE is:

“remember when you got out of school for the summer and you wake up the first morning of summer vacation? And you realize you have no school and no homework you have to do? And you have the whole day ahead of you to do whatever the hell you feel like? It feels like that.”  MrFreakyFrugal nailed it.

There is nothing I want to add to that.  It’s pure, simple and exactly correct.

In closing, there is a retirement community near me with a billboard that says “Retire Like You Mean It.”TM  That’s awesome!  Go to sleep knowing you own tomorrow.  Wake up knowing you own the day.  Imagine living 24 hours a day knowing you are your own boss.  This is almost priceless.

FIRE.053 Financially Sound

I have the hardest time telling (common) people I’m FIRE.

What Do You Do?

For me, in FIRE it can be very strange when someone asks you “what do you do?”  Being in your 40s, the normal answer is “profession=XYZ,  family=ABC, blah blah blah.”  In my mind, I never thought it would be strange to say “I’m retired” since that is the standard nomenclature for no longer being tied to a 9 to 5 job.  But I realized the full phrase is more completely “9 to 5 to 65.”

Yes, I know that retiring at 65 may be extremely optimistic for many people in our consumerist society, after all, there were many ‘things’ their family needs to enjoy their life together (watercrafts, ATVs, home theaters, new/smart appliances, larger vehicles with entertainment systems so little Tommy wouldn’t be bored driving 10 minutes to the (artisan) grocery store.  First world problems to be sure.

It’s possible for many people that 65 arrives and the old SUV’s entertainment system relies on these things called DVDs or CDs (I have a cassette deck-adapter connected to my iphone) and the in-dash GPS has maps that were last updated 15 years ago…oh wait, nobody drives a 15-year-old car, well except people like us.  Many people will arrive at 65 with LOTS of purchases in their past, but few assets/investments now.

I’m Retired … [silence]

My wife FIREd 3 years before me.  She told me I would have a hard time telling people I was retired.  I thought she was crazy.  Why?  After all we had done to live good but below our means, save and invest, etc, etc, it just made sense to be free from working 9-5.  It shouldn’t be a big deal to others, it’s cool, right?

She was right!  (as usual)  Telling people you are “retired”—one word that to me means “I’m not forced to work a job to pay my expenses” seems to mean “old” to most everyone.  There was always just utter confusion on many faces with my being retired.  The concept of “what I do” was totally inconceivable to everyone.  [live like no one else, so you can live like no one else—Dave Ramsey, is spot on]

If I didn’t want to use the word “retire” or more detailed “retired early” (anger-inducing) I could say I am FIREd, but I feel to most people the term FI seems elitist, a better-than-you classification.  USUALLY it just means, we spent/wasted less than most others…and now we’re spending that money.

Financially Comfortable

At our vacation trailer, a neighbor used the term “financially comfortable” which I thought was a great term.  To me, it means, we have money set aside but we’re using some of our money to enjoy life.  This isn’t a rich person position, nor is it a strapped with-bills-each-month and a missed paycheck is doom position.  Financially Sound could be a family that has an emergency fund and some long-term savings (and tax deferred retirement savings).

I feel people in FI and FIRE are more than financially comfortable.  Maybe we are near the ultimate in “comfortable.”  The term Financially Sound came into my head as the position of rock-solid financial base.  This is probably on the FU/FI Money scale, maybe just before FU and then FI.  I believe Financially Sound is less off-putting to commoners (i.e the masses/consumerists—not that there’s anything wrong with that path in life).

So what do I tell people I do?  Don’t laugh because it’s not totally absurd, I say “I do consulting.”  That is usually enough to let me (try to become charming and) ask about them, show interest, which I truly am interested 99% of the time.  In truth, I may do plenty of consulting.  I may help others with technology, or help someone find something around town, help with some research, tell someone about a good restaurant, a Costco special, the cheapest gas station, whatever.  It may be stretching the truth, but it’s not off-putting.

So, what do I do?  I enjoy every day on my schetchle.  I stay active running, biking, going to the gym, playing hockey.  I read and learn for hours every day.  I try to help others frequently (three people per day is a great goal).  I try to get more zen to heighten my life enjoyment.  I think I just enjoy.  Just imagine if everyone could wake up each morning—or go to sleep knowing that tomorrow—and know all they have to do is enjoy their day.

When will people understand FIREd does not mean being fired from work, being laid off/RIFd/having your job taken away.  It is the absolute opposite, walking away from your job on your own terms.  Thought: I wish FIRE had FU in the acronym…that’s the independent in me.  There is no question FI  & FIRE are showing up more often in the media, but often as a radical concept…except to those of us who know the magical power.  FIRE away.

FIRE.052 Good News, Goodwill

Let’s talk about shopping.  There’s either planned need-based shopping or entertainment shopping.  We’ve all done both at many times in our lives.  Of course, we’re supposed to just perform planned/need-based shopping excursions, but that’s no fun.  Let’s talk about discount shopping—with a plan.

Normal shopping has a few pricing models, full-price, sale-price, some other crazy-price.  The goods we purchase come in two states—new or used.

Today I feel the need to talk about used items.  Something that someone wanted to get rid of and allow us to have that those items for less money.  So excellent for the wallet!  There are many used item locations ebay, craigslist, garage sales, neighborhood posting sites, thrift stores, (bulk trash for some), etc.

Let’s talk about Goodwill thrift stores.  Tons of merchandise—some horrible junk, other may be nice finds or “treasures.”

Here’s the best part:  Goodwill stores often have multiple pricing options.  Full priced items, half priced items,  and excellent $1 items.  Many Goodwill stores base the price on how long the item has been for sale in the store.

  • Full Price: As items arrive they are priced with the new color tag of the week (e.g. pink) for full price.  I’m not sure, but I believe my store has 5 colors of tags— as an example a store may use Pink, Purple, Green, Blue, and Yellow.
  • 50% off: The fifth(?) Friday after arrival, those old pink tags become 50% off their full price to incentivize people to get those items out of the store.  Friday morning can get a little busy in some goodwill stores.  There may also 50% off Saturdays when the entire store is on sale.
  • $1 day: Then on the following Thu—end of that color’s 50% off week— all those 50% pink tagged items become $1 to really try and push the items out of the store.  Thursday morning can be even crazier.  Imagine getting jeans or a jacket for $1.

Then the next day (Friday) the discount process starts over with the next (oldest) color, in this example, Purple tags become 50% off their full price.

There are also 50% off Saturdays,  Senior Tuesday, Military day savings

My tip:  Near the end of the year many people donate items for the tax write and in Jan many items are donated because of new year’s ‘cleaning’ resolutions.  So if we can time 5 weeks after these items arrive (mid-Jan – mid/late Feb) you will find a large selection of very discounted stuff.  My local Goodwill’s racks are jam-packed with clothes and shelves are stacked with items.

I’m sorry this post went up at the end of this timeframe, I just realized myself why there was so much stuff at the stores.  Keep a shopping list of items you need/want in your task list.  Set up a calendar reminder for late Jan and Early Feb next year to take advantage of Goodwill Thrift Store donations sales to load up on stuff and save your wallet some serious money…and have hopefully a great entertainment shopping adventure.

FIRE.051 ChooseFI Group: Enjoying Life

FI: Financially Aware, Financially Optimizing; Enjoying Life.  That is the title I wanted to use, but Jonathan and Brad’s ChooseFI podcast deserves the headline.

I’ve now met repeatedly with two local ChooseFI groups and the meetings continue to be some of the most amazing meetings ever.

Gathered around a large table—or in rows of chairs—were over a dozen people who are locked in on the idea of being in Financial Control.  These people have the power over their money and not let money—or worse bills—control them.

The members of the group are so interested—or experienced—in mastering their money, time, and life.  The term “life hacks” is so magically applicable to many repeated examples shared in these meetings.  The brain power and information could be overwhelming in the 3ish hours if we weren’t all totally engrossed in the topics, constantly jumping to new topics or expounding on those in the current discussion.  I NEVER have an attention span over an hour, not with anything, except with the ChooseFI group(s).  To be fair, I understand some significant others have been known to overload and “skip” some of the future meetings, but a huge percentage of the group loves the information, even more so than considering the time just “well-spent-learning-hours.”

The two groups I’m in are full of people so different from the norm.  The entire group is actually quite different from each other.  We differ in age, family size, residence location, careers, experience with finances, wealth, financial sub-interests, etc.  Yet, there is such an open—and actually an excitement—between us.  The FI foundation we all share shows that the structure(s) we build on top can be and look different, but we are all so similar.

How the hell can so many strangers get so excited, raising their voices, and one-upping each other, when the Instant Pot comes up?  Hilariously amazing.

Maybe I’m just communicating the fact that we are ALL working to be better.  Financial freedom takes away a huge burden allowing the best in each of us.  How we choose to give our best back to the world may differ, but it shines through when you’re around the group.

I just wonder, what if the other 9,999 people out of 10,000 could learn 1/3 (1hr per month) of these ideas, skills, hacks?  What would our society, our neighborhoods, our friends and family do with this feeling of control, of power?

On a personal note: I’ve been pushing my FIRE life aggressively for over 12 years (7-10 pre/3+ post FIRE).  I looked 3, 5, 10 years ago to see if there were groups discussing FI for younger, middle-aged people with no luck.  I found the ChooseFI podcast after listening to podcasts for 10+ years and enjoy it along with my other podcasts.  What I do find truly remarkable is the way Brad and Jonathan have grown the FI topic from the typical blogs/podcasts into local meetings.  I’m over the hump and living FIRE on hopefully a LONG, LONG glide path, but I still learn and definitely love to share ideas I learned along the way.  It’s amazing to be with groups of people who are on a similar flight path, just have different takeoff dates and current altitudes.

Try the ChooseFI podcast, try to find a local ChooseFI group (or meetup) even if you’re not a social person like me.  I’ll tell you, it’s easy to be around people like you…actually, it’s awesome.  They’re awesome!

FIRE.50 MMMMM Frosting

I think I’ve found something sweet in life!

Nearly every morning as I wake up I take a few moments to relax and prepare for the day.  I don’t even have to think about my daily plans (those activities are already in my schetchle but rather think about how amazing life is.

Of course, we all know that each morning we see the sunlight is much better than the other option, but how thankful are we?

I have found that laying in bed, being comfortable, knowing that I’m so lucky to have lived my life in a way so far to allow me to fully own my day as my own, really sets me up for the great day ahead.  There are many wise people that take some time each morning to meditate calming or clearing their mind, so it’s possible I’m doing this in my own way.

The other day I was enjoying the start of my morning, feeling VERY comfortable and content, laying under the fluffy down comforter when I realized that I’m like the frosting on my bed cake.  Yep, sometimes a calm mind comes up with strange things.

So, my bed is the nice soft foundation of the cake and the comforter is the fluffy frosting on the cake.  I was laying there in full comfort right in the middle of the sweet frosting.

Everyone should have the opportunity to take advantage of some of this “frosting” time.  All too often we are jarred awake by an alarm, we pull ourselves out of bed—or delay the inevitable before getting up—and drag ourselves into the day.  If only more of us could find the few minutes to lay in the frosting and enjoy the sweetness of what we have—even if only for 5 minutes.

I have written before how the best time of my day is the 10-15 before I fall asleep. I’m realizing more and more that sleep is where your body recovers, repairs itself, reset itself and realigns to for the upcoming day(s).  It is important to maximize your sleep almost as much as you maximize your day.  Your health may depend on it.

I believe I have always thought about many things differently than others.  My mind is usually a straight-ahead plan, but I also envision random ideas along the way.  I’m not artistic, but I’m possibly mentally creative?  I guess I’m sharing an alternate perspective—maybe one you could try to get a different perspective and outcome for yourself.

There is so much zen about mindset.  I really try to work on zen but it’s not my nature.  Yet I continue to try and find calm.  Finding this frosting time—and naming it—has made it more of a functional time than just being lazy.  I know my days, especially my mornings, have been better because of enjoying the frosting.

FIRE.049 Retirement is Crazy Busy

I know you’re thinking, “I’m not going to read this garbage about how busy you are old man, just hanging around with no real life.”  Believe me, I know your time is valuable, but give me a few minutes to show you how great your weeks can be.

Just think about this; think about the long holiday weekends when you get a glorious day off.  Friday holidays give you super bonus time before the normal busy weekend.  Monday holidays allow Sunday to be a looser and more enjoyable day because you can finish up stuff on Monday.  These long weekends are the very best.  They can be almost as good as a real vacation (short vacation) because you don’t have the travel, packing, planning, hectic running around to deal with.

Now there are some people—don’t hate them— who feel like every day is Saturday.  They can choose to perform many tasks on their to-do list.  They can go out and attend events.  This allows them to decide to put their feet up and avoid the “prime time” weekend chaos.  There’s no need to run errands and get the shopping done at the same time as everyone else.

The people who get to “live off-peak” can do their public errands mid-day, mid-week for the least stressful situations.  I’m referring not only to busy stores and long checkout lines but also crazy traffic heading to/from the stores.  Going to the movie theater mid-day Tuesday is awesome, empty and far cheaper than peak time.

Living off-peak also allows ample opportunities to perform mini adventures in your town.  The ability to explore between say 9a-3p opens up a whole new perspective of activities where you live.  Even something as mundane/nerdy as the public library can be quite amazing with all it has to offer (even online resources).

Performing tasks related to calling customer service even allows for optimization as I believe most call centers experience peak activity in the morning and evening hours.  The off-peakers can even save time on hold for these required tasks.

I’ve been FIRE’d for over 3 years and I’ve never actually had the opportunity to have one of those “hide out and just relax with netflix or read ALL day.”  It just seems like something ALWAYS comes up that allows me to get moving and perform some task (not painfully) ALL THE TIME.

The craziest part of FIRE to me has been my google task list.  I like keeping notes of things I need to, want to, should do and would consider doing.  My list is MUCH longer than it has ever been.  Over 100 items now grouped into 1. do now, 2. do soon, 3. do sometimes, 4. do maybe if I want, 9 shopping and 6/7/8 are family lists.  (I also have a learning list in there)

My Task list is no longer a to-do list, but rather a loose set of items pretty much centered around my schetchle.  I don’t feel stressed out from my long list, but rather see it as a list of opportunities/events. The freedom allows for happy growth in myself.

When you start getting close to FIRE, it will be time to make your own list and it will be awesome!

FIRE.048 FI’ers

A couple weeks ago I met with the Phoenix ChooseFI Local group and it was one of the most amazing meetings ever.

Gathered around a large table were over a dozen people who are taking control of their financial lives.  Some are starting this as a new level goal while others are expanding their financial skills.

There were quick introductions where everyone told a little about their story. Savers. Real estate investors. Small business or side hustlers. I could feel my energy and excitement grow every couple minutes with each new “I’m into this” story.

The attendees (FI’er’s) were ALL interested to learn more and be better with Finances.  Specifically to control their finances and gain financial power for their lives.  It wasn’t like some of those tv/movie “financial seminars” I’d viewed or imaged.  The gung-ho, rah-rah, let’s-go-make-money ideals.  This was a “how do you…”  “How could I…”  …get into the powerful position of money/financial confidence.

So fast forward two weeks and I’m in San Diego (life is great) and I’m able to meet up with another ChooseFI Local group.  Nearly thirty (stars) at a neighborhood church meeting room. Some retired. Some brand new. Some feeling the need to fine tune. Some feeling the need or newfound desire to get their money smacked down and under control.

Again as everyone introduced themselves I felt the energy of grown and experience from these amazing people.  Different people at different stages of finances but all with the same thinking of being in control.

I STRONGLY recommend finding a local ChooseFI group and attending/sharing.  You can quietly listen and/or talk and talk because the group(s) are really easy going and very smart and totally welcoming.  In all honesty, life-changing.

FIRE.048 Your Timeline vs Automobiles

[continuing my car theme from my last post]

50 Years: My wife and I were thinking about how things change. Small changes over time add up to huge differences from point A to point B. We thought about her ’69 mustang and how it’s almost 50 years old. Older than me! We thought about the MASSIVE changes in technology over the recent 50 years, such as better braking, stability, computer controlled everything, adaptive cruise control, blind spot sensors, rear cameras, not to mention self-driving cars/semis.

We then thought about how the 69 mustang was hugely different than say a 1918 model T, or even a 1915 high-end Cadillac. This of the open wheels, hand crank, buggy carriage setup, kazoo horn…

Next 50 years: Here’s my next thought—I may be around 50 years from now and be able to witness another of these cycles. It’s possible the cycles will speed up—similar to binary growth/compounding—allowing two-fold of these “cycles” in the next 50 years.

These changes are limitless in automotive, air travel, technology, medicine, science, space travel, even super-duper-earth-travel?

[This is the positive way to look at future “progress/growth” rather than the stressful FIRE thoughts about inflation and how much more everything will cost in the future. Those mid 60’s mustangs were around $2500 new. In today’s dollars, that would equal about $20,000. Projecting forward just seems scary. If the average new car today is $30k, then it would be possible a new car in 2057 could be $250k.]

Hold on for the amazing future:

Can you even imagine the future you will be part of?

How can we prepare our financial lives for such changes?

This is such a great time to be alive and living in this world…and into the future. “Find The Positive!”

FIRE.046 401k car to nowhere

This is a TRUE STORY.  The names have been changed to protect the guilty person.  This still hurts me to this day (of current “market highs”).  Just my thoughts/another perspective on life/spending.

A few years ago I was hanging out at a small gathering with acquaintances and the stories were flying around and new cars came up.  One of the ladies mentioned how she loves her new ($30k) car.  After a few minutes, she joked that she had a 401k that “crashed” so she got mad and pulled all the remaining money out of her 401k to buy her new car, thus “protecting her money.”

Nightmare math (estimate):

  • 2007 balance in 401k: 100k
  • 2009 market crash, the balance falls to: 60k
  • 2009 she closes account <59.5, paying maybe 28%+5%+10% (fed tax, state tax, penalty). This leaves a TOTAL inflow of: 35k?
  • 2009 she uses the “saved-from-disaster” money and buys a 30k car (+3k tax, +first year=1k insurance,1k gas, other)
  • 2012 the three-year-old car may now be worth 15k? …and still dropping in value, while incurring expenses
  • So in just a few short years, her roughly $100k became a depreciating $15k ‘use’ asset.
  • If the money had been left in the account (and it only recovered back to even) and then w/d in retirement starting after age 60 (in a slightly lower tax bracket?) over 3 years, the net inflow could have been closer to 25k after taxes for 3 years.

Of course, using post-2012 math is perfect 20/20 hindsight.  I remember in 2008 thinking how everything was imploding and wondering how long the economy (markets) would take to come back…if they did at all—considering Japan’s lost decade, etc.

During the crisis, so many of the podcasts and articles begged people to stay-the-course.  They all said the markets have ALWAYS come back through US history.  I Figured I was young and over the coming decades it would work out.  WHEW.  I also kept saving each paycheck, knowing full well that I was getting more shares for the same amount of investment.  Luckily, I was an adult in 2001 and lived through something similar—but not as crazy—so I figured that it may all work out like they were saying.

 

Side note: I’m not one to understand the pleasure of a new car purchase.  ALL of my automobiles have been purchased used.  Our main car tends to be 3 years old when we purchase it, then we drive it for 10 years before considering our next main vehicle.  Maybe I just don’t know any better!?  Come to think about it, even my homes were all used, most of my clothes are used (or outlet), many of electronics are often last year’s tech on deal-of-the-day.  Maybe this is a trend of mine.  It’s worked out so far…